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lucky
05-24-2009, 02:16 PM
if the parents (or whomever is in charge of them) aren't paying attention to them and they start fighting would you say something?

i did this the other day. the nanny was doing something at the store and kept having to tell this little red headed gremlin to leave his sister alone. he kept following the little girl and bumping into her. they were about 7 and 5 respectively.

the nanny told the kid to back off his sister about 50x, but she was at the counter sending a western union off and they went to the front. the girl picked up a pen on a counter and the boy tried to grab it from her, they started pushing and hitting... the nanny was not paying attention.

that's when i C'd my way into the situation and sternly told him cut it out, do not hit your sister, you're supposed to be nice to each other! he stopped and she went by to the nanny. i gave him a look to let him know i was watching him. lol

the thing is, the kid obviously should not put his hands on his sis, but this stuff is the parents fault. they don't give their kids enough attention, are wimpy parents who let kids rule them or favor one over the other.... the red headed kid wasn't born to bully his sis, the situation had to be created.

whatever that woman was getting paid to watch the kids was definitely not enough. i felt funny saying something to the kid at first, because it's not my place but it was out of control!

lucky
05-24-2009, 02:18 PM
was that story as long as i thought? yes! lol

Reecy729
05-24-2009, 02:20 PM
it wasn't that long though

cuz i managed to read all of it :)

lucky
05-24-2009, 02:23 PM
yay@ reecy. that kid wouldn't even listen to her. i think i could have whipped him into shape, although not physically. i'd need a cool million to do it though.

BMFRU2
05-24-2009, 02:23 PM
if the parents (or whomever is in charge of them) aren't paying attention to them and they start fighting would you say something? No. Not MY kids.

i did this the other day. the nanny was doing something at the store and kept having to tell this little red headed gremlin to leave his sister alone. he kept following the little girl and bumping into her. they were about 7 and 5 respectively.

the nanny told the kid to back off his sister about 50x, but she was at the counter sending a western union off and they went to the front. the girl picked up a pen on a counter and the boy tried to grab it from her, they started pushing and hitting... the nanny was not paying attention. OK time 2 step n.

that's when i C'd my way into the situation and sternly told him cut it out, do not hit your sister, you're supposed to be nice to each other! he stopped and she went by to the nanny. i gave him a look to let him know i was watching him. lol

the thing is, the kid obviously should not put his hands on his sis, but this stuff is the parents fault. they don't give their kids enough attention, are wimpy parents who let kids rule them or favor one over the other.... the red headed kid wasn't born to bully his sis, the situation had to be created. Siblings R gonna fight each other that the way of the world. It also helps weed out the weak and 2 know their place in life.

whatever that woman was getting paid to watch the kids was definitely not enough. i felt funny saying something to the kid at first, because it's not my place but it was out of control! Agree

Reecy729
05-24-2009, 02:28 PM
yay@ reecy. that kid wouldn't even listen to her. i think i could have whipped him into shape, although not physically. i'd need a cool million to do it though.

LOL

isn't it funny how kids respond to authority?

me and my brother used to fight all the time when we were younger. my mom never got involved, unless we got too loud and she got annoyed. but we didn't fight in public and we definitely didn't pick up objects to continue the fight.

imo, i think it was a good thing that you said something when the girl picked up the pen. that could have become a real ugly situation quickly and the nanny wouldn't have known until it was too late

lucky
05-24-2009, 02:29 PM
@ BMF ... true, sibling rivalry can run deep especially in small kids, but imo i think this is one of those situations where a kid when alone with the other could do something crazy to the other. that boy was not right in his head, it was rather scary. the woman pushed him away from his sis who was clinging to her i don't know how many times and he kept coming back. people in the store were all looking at them like WOW.

something is mos def up in those kids household.

lucky
05-24-2009, 02:31 PM
@ reecy ... i guess some kids grow out of the fighting and all. so ya'll were down with warring with objects?? lol

Reecy729
05-24-2009, 02:34 PM
@ reecy ... i guess some kids grow out of the fighting and all. so ya'll were down with warring with objects?? lol

i think they do grow out of it. i stopped fighting with my brother once he got to high school and started playing football. i remember asking him about the weight lifting they do and i asked him how much he could bench press and he said 110 lbs or something like that. at that time i was 90+ lbs, soaking wet. so i decided that getting physical was prolly a bad idea. LOL

The_Urban_Administrator
05-24-2009, 02:50 PM
i can write a book on this shit

Reecy729
05-24-2009, 03:10 PM
i can write a book on this shit

you should

everybody's writing books anyway

lucky
05-24-2009, 04:05 PM
everybody's writing books anyway

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7572/39007060.jpg

lucky
05-24-2009, 04:06 PM
i can write a book on this shit

did it get down and dirty with the sibs? lol

my sister was sneaky as hell, she waited for my mom to leave before starting ish.

ratid
05-24-2009, 04:29 PM
you were right to step in. the nanny wasn't paying attention.

ChocolateCity
05-24-2009, 04:46 PM
I can't stand bad azz kids either. More and more are showing up with no home training...lol and that means we may end up with lots of unruly, hard-headed azz adults.

Stealth
05-24-2009, 06:05 PM
lol funny


funny i read this i had the same exact conversation with a friend yesterday in refrence to her kids .


we were talking about discipline and how it translates to parents vs strangers , or not as well known people ( teachers ) .


its odd how a child can be told from his parents to do something and they child will bend or fight to avoid the direction ..im not so sure a child that disobeys his parents its due to the parents being to weak ..its kind of human nature .


if a stranger or even a teacher attempts to discipline its serious business to a child ...its kind works hand in hand with adult behavior , how we take loved ones for granted .. we treat people we love like shit and those that treat us poorly we gravitate towards .. ( all people do this on some level ) .



children respond well to discipline from outsiders because they basicaly take their parents love for granted .. you dont need to do what yer parents say because well , ya dont have to worry about your parents not loving you ..


for me this goes deeper and has alot to do with some kind of genetic weakness in the human pysche ... its kind of like how some people have to look in the toilet after that take a shit ....kind of ....thing .

lucky
05-24-2009, 08:47 PM
@ stealth, yes kids will usually not push the envelope as far with someone who is not mom, dad, grandma etc. my intuition was telling me i would be great with that kid, but hey i could be wrong.

another issue imo is when parents/caretakers do not follow through on discipline. my friend whose son i raised with her, does not take her seriously. she has always been full of i'm gonnas and 99.9999 percent of the time does not follow through because it's too much trouble to her. with me, he and his friends know that if i say something i mean it, whether it's carrying out discipline (never put my hands on kid in my life... taking privledges away yes) or keeping a promise for something simple like going out for ice cream or going to the park to play.

children are smart as hell, with amazing natural intuition. they're looking to play the angles at times, so it's like spy vs. spy ... sometimes you have to be the counter spy. lol

kids are paying close attention to your word so people can't be heavy with the false promises or "threats" of i'm gonna otherwise they will not take you seriously.

then again as you stated, sometimes it's not the parents, it's just kids being kids.